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Brian
Sweet Inspiration
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 28/04/2007 : 20:38:22
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Should our 'wonderful' Prince Harry go to Iraq?
There is great debate going on to whether it's 'safe' for him to go - BLOODY HELL - HE'S SUPPOSED TO BE A SOLDIER ISN'T HE?
What about all the others who don't have a 'choice'? Of course they DID have a choice to join the army/air force/navy in the first place, so that narrows it down a bit I suppose.
And there are military personal who joined up because they couldn't find jobs here in the first place...but Prince H didn't need to prove his worth this way. WE ALL KNOW HE'S WORTHLESS ALREADY!
Brian.
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Lindakron
Sweet Inspiration
Canada
2701 Posts |
Posted - 28/04/2007 : 20:52:44
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Hey, if Elvis Presley served, so should Prince Harry.... lol
~Linda~
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Janie
Administrator
United Kingdom
6066 Posts |
Posted - 28/04/2007 : 21:15:14
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My concern would be if he became a target, some of our other service personnel would almost inevitably get caught up in it all. How would it be if a lot of casualties occurred because of Prince Harry's presence.
I take your points entirely though Brian!
Janie  x53 |
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MattMidd1
Wishing And Hoping
United Kingdom
570 Posts |
Posted - 28/04/2007 : 21:25:05
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Prince Harry is a normal guy who whould go in the war if he wants. I also think (same as Janie) he could cause more casualties because of his presence.
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Mark
Sweet Inspiration
United Kingdom
2729 Posts |
Posted - 28/04/2007 : 21:28:31
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Prince Harry signed up for the Army voluntarily, like everyone who has joined the Forces has done since the end of National Service in '63.......they know the dangers, but at the end of the day it's up to each individual to do whatever it is they want to do.
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MattMidd1
Wishing And Hoping
United Kingdom
570 Posts |
Posted - 28/04/2007 : 21:40:05
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I got a good question - was Tom Springfield in the army?
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Rhiannon
Wishing And Hoping
United Kingdom
385 Posts |
Posted - 28/04/2007 : 21:53:25
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| Let's face it - even if Prince Harry does go, he won't fire a single bullet. He'll be kept in one of the camps, well away from any of the action and it will all just be to prove to the public that the stupid royal family can do the things that your average member of the public does. STUPID!!! |
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Janie
Administrator
United Kingdom
6066 Posts |
Posted - 28/04/2007 : 21:55:13
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Originally posted by Rhiannon
Let's face it - even if Prince Harry does go, he won't fire a single bullet. He'll be kept in one of the camps, well away from any of the action and it will all just be to prove to the public that the stupid royal family can do the things that your average member of the public does. STUPID!!!
Do I take it you are a Royalist, Rhi??!!   
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Carole R.
Higher and Higher
United Kingdom
13666 Posts |
Posted - 28/04/2007 : 22:14:26
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Well, as its an illegal occupation, and not a war..
I think Prince Harry should NOT go.
For heavens sake...
We SHOULD be bringing all the troops home, NOT sending any more, WHOEVER they may be..
Carole R xx
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Lindakron
Sweet Inspiration
Canada
2701 Posts |
Posted - 28/04/2007 : 23:58:20
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Originally posted by Carole R.
Well, as its an illegal occupation and not a war..
I think Prince Harry should NOT go.
For heavens sake...
We SHOULD be bringing all the troops home, NOT sending any more, WHOEVER they may be..
Carole R xx
NOW we're talking!!
But I doth try to keep my mouth shut. 
Question, but afraid to talk politics... but too curious to not ask... what's the British view of the whole U.S. vs Iraq thing? Not only on an administrative level, but I also want to know what the average citizen thinks?
In Canada we've only gone so far as to send troops to Afghanistan on a "peacekeeping mission", and even that is controversial. We don't touch the Iraq thing... Canadians (including the federal government) believe that the USA was hopelessly wrong about everything b/w the States and Iraq. And this goes back to Bush's daddy in the 1990's.
~Linda~
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Sara
Higher and Higher
United Kingdom
9298 Posts |
Posted - 28/04/2007 : 23:59:07
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Yeah.. STOP THE WAR!!! I don't understand why anyone would want to take part in all that.
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Mark
Sweet Inspiration
United Kingdom
2729 Posts |
Posted - 29/04/2007 : 09:19:00
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Originally posted by Lindakron
Question, but afraid to talk politics... but too curious to not ask... what's the British view of the whole U.S. vs Iraq thing? Not only on an administrative level, but I also want to know what the average citizen thinks?
Posted by Mark
Well, being an 'average' (in most respects!) British citizen myself and people I work with have become all a bit blase' about the whole thing, it's not that nobody cares about the continuing death toll, it's case of turning on the News and there it is....Iraq, Iraq, and more Iraq and I really don't want to hear it anymore, so I don't.
At the end of the day it's the Politicians who should be held to account, yet it's the ordinary people who suffer through suicide bombings, etc;
I distinctly recall Tony Blair saying in an interview once that once they've 'finished' in Iraq, North Korea was the next Country to be 'dealt with'......I hardly think so now, Blair has gone from being the second most popular Primeminister of all time when first elected 10 years ago, right down the most unpopular......and serves him right!
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Carole R.
Higher and Higher
United Kingdom
13666 Posts |
Posted - 29/04/2007 : 11:31:54
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I just think its sad, that The Generation which preached 'Peace and Love' in The Sixties, haven't learned a thing.
As in all Wars, the failed Poiticians who start them, are the ones who get away with it unscathed.
It's the ordinary people who always suffer, and its a total disgrace.
All of the present situation , both in Iraq and Afghanistan is down to oil and greed...
There are numerous other horrific regimes all over the World, to which, the West turns a blind eye.
Why? : Cos they aint got no oil, or they are in a better position to defend themselves...
I'll just leave it at that for now.
Carole.....in danger of having a 'rant'...
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Lindakron
Sweet Inspiration
Canada
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Posted - 29/04/2007 : 13:54:51
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Originally posted by Carole R.
All of the present situation , both in Iraq and Afghanistan is down to oil and greed...
Yes, on an administrative level. And on the level of the average citizen, it comes down to fear. Which works out for George W, because fear triggers aggression.
I hate talking about politics (too controversial!) but I can't resist... it's like watching a train wreck.
~Linda~
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furtivenudist
Wishing And Hoping
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Posted - 01/05/2007 : 02:02:46
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The war in Iraq is not a war - as the late comedian Bill Hicks said a war requires a minimum of two armies. It's slaughter for oil and it's a crime against humanity.
Bush and Blair are war criminals, every single person involved in this horrific carnage is a war criminal, Prince Harry is a war criminal, too.
As for the Royal Family, I hope once this Queen passes, you'll bid them good riddance. They're a bunch of freeloaders, serving no purpose whatsoever, living in great privilege for no apparent reason. It's high time for them to get real jobs. |
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Janie
Administrator
United Kingdom
6066 Posts |
Posted - 01/05/2007 : 07:09:56
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Originally posted by furtivenudist
As for the Royal Family, I hope once this Queen passes, you'll bid them good riddance. They're a bunch of freeloaders, serving no purpose whatsoever, living in great privilege for no apparent reason. It's high time for them to get real jobs.
An interesting and somewhat ironic comment to make methinks on a thread where we are discussing whether the grandson of the monarch should take up his duties as a fully trained member of the Armed Forces! 
Janie x53 |
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furtivenudist
Wishing And Hoping
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Posted - 01/05/2007 : 18:47:45
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An interesting and somewhat ironic comment to make methinks on a thread where we are discussing whether the grandson of the monarch should take up his duties as a fully trained member of the Armed Forces!
Janie x53
The grunts in American armed forces are made up of the very poor - they enlist out of desperation. And they're treated as such - no proper armor or nutrition. They're cannon fodder.
And they fight side by side with highly paid mercenaries, about 15% of American forces in Iraq. And they come back mutilated, to lie in their own urine at the Walter Reed hospital.
The "war" in Iraq is an atrocity - why are we even there? To try out high tech weapons against a defenseless population?
You wouldn't like it if a foreign power invaded England and started shooting your family like so many fish in a barrel.
So Prince Harry becomes a poster boy for war crimes.
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Carole R.
Higher and Higher
United Kingdom
13666 Posts |
Posted - 01/05/2007 : 22:47:11
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I do think that sending Harry to Iraq appears to give Royal Approval to what is an illegal occupation of a sovereign country...
THAT is one of the reasons I don't think he should be sent there.
I agree that he is in the Army and therefore should be as much of a fighting soldier as the rest...but none of them should be in Iraq.
This disastrous and tragic episode has killed numerous innocent people and Iraq has now become the magnet for World terrorism.
I'll tell you WHO should SHOULD be sent to Iraq... Tony Blair and his cowardly cohorts plus George Bush and his weapons manufacturing mates.
They would BOTH have thought twice if that had been a consequence of their deceitful actions.
Carole R xx
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Janie
Administrator
United Kingdom
6066 Posts |
Posted - 02/05/2007 : 16:11:51
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Furtivenudist and Carole - I don't disagree in the least with the last two posts. The point I was making was in the context of Furtive's comment about 'real jobs' for the Royal Family. Whether we approve of the war in Irag or not, whether we believe as a member of the Royal Family Harry should go to Iraq or even be in the Armed Forces in the first place, he has fulfilled his training and does have a 'real job'.
My comment was not about the war in Iraq but rather about the point made by Furtive in relation to the Royal Family. To place my comment in the context of the War is entirely erroneous.
Janie x53 |
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Carole R.
Higher and Higher
United Kingdom
13666 Posts |
Posted - 02/05/2007 : 17:10:38
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Dear Janie,
I wasn't commenting on your post, I was just ranting on again, about a subject which always gets me mad, namely, this tragic debacle in Iraq..
Brians thread asked whether Harry should go there.
My answer was, in my opinion, NO, and neither should anyone else..
Carole xx |
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Janie
Administrator
United Kingdom
6066 Posts |
Posted - 02/05/2007 : 19:35:36
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Originally posted by Carole R.
Dear Janie,
I wasn't commenting on your post, I was just ranting on again, about a subject which always gets me mad, namely, this tragic debacle in Iraq..
Brians thread asked whether Harry should go there.
My answer was, in my opinion, NO, and neither should anyone else..
Carole xx
Janie x53 |
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