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furtivenudist
Wishing And Hoping
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 Posted - 03/05/2007 : 00:46:28
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Janie,
The point I was trying to make is that the army is not a real job - doesn't benefit anyone but the military-industrial complex.
If people stopped enlisting, wars would end.
What are we fighting for in Iraq? Texaco, Exxon, BP, Shell. Soldiers are protecting corporate interests.
We have terrorism only because we've been meddling in Mid East affairs since the 1920s. Then it comes back to bite us in the ass and we're shocked. How dare they fi8ght back? |
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Janie
Administrator
United Kingdom
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Posted - 03/05/2007 : 07:27:12
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Originally posted by furtivenudist
Janie,
The point I was trying to make is that the army is not a real job - doesn't benefit anyone but the military-industrial complex.
If people stopped enlisting, wars would end.
What are we fighting for in Iraq? Texaco, Exxon, BP, Shell. Soldiers are protecting corporate interests.
We have terrorism only because we've been meddling in Mid East affairs since the 1920s. Then it comes back to bite us in the ass and we're shocked. How dare they fi8ght back?
Point taken, FN....thank you for clarifying 
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furtivenudist
Wishing And Hoping
182 Posts |
Posted - 03/05/2007 : 18:28:31
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from an article by Jo Ann Wypijewski "Damned Weaklings"
Today Cho; yesterday Walter Reed Army Medical Center. The injured soldiers at the center of that earlier scandal certainly qualify as weak and defenseless people, except that the object of fascination while they dominated the 24/7 churn of cable news was not their career as killers or the preparations that readied them to kill. They were the victims in the scandal. About the perpetrator, Walter Reed, the question “How could this have happened?” was not answered with any of the searching examination the press brings to the biography of mass murderers. Naturally, we aren’t meant to think of soldiers as trained killers or of any military installation as part of an institution of mass murder. It might help if we did. Certainly it would help aspiring recruits better understand what they are getting into, and help wounded veterans understand why they would be degraded as soon as they’d outlived their usefulness to the trade.
The truth is, a system dedicated to transforming psychologically healthy people into people capable of performing what in any other setting is considered a pathological act can’t help behaving badly-not all the time or in all of its realms, not monolithically so that everyone associated with it is scathed. But inevitably the ends deform the means, and inevitably someone pays. No one is talking about it, but what happened at Walter Reed to soldiers injured in war is not shocking at all if one ponders what happens at Army posts to soldiers injured in basic training.
“LIKE BEING INCARCERATED”-Basic training is one of those regimens of cruelty that people have come to accept as normal. The Army has officially eliminated some of its most abusive practices, along with its theory of “breaking them down to build them up,” the classic humiliation of recruits by a drill sergeant, designed to make them into soldiers capable of acting as a unit, following orders and killing. This reshaping remains essential; it is simply meant to be accomplished with more respect now. In all events, weakness is to be despised, which means that the 15 to 37 percent of men and the 38 to 67 percent of women who sustain at least one injury due to the rigors of basic training at Fort Sill, Fort Knox, Fort Jackson, Fort Leonard Wood or Fort Benning are in trouble. |
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Mark
Sweet Inspiration
United Kingdom
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Posted - 16/05/2007 : 19:05:29
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Apparently he ain't goin' now......well, I'll certainly sleep better tonight for knowing that fact! 
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Carole R.
Higher and Higher
United Kingdom
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Posted - 16/05/2007 : 19:41:56
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Yes its coming to something when our Army don't trust itself to keep Harry safe, aint it?..
Its a pity they can't admit that fact to all the other families who are losing their Sons in this God Forsaken farce.
I heard this song from the Sixties the other day,,and it is even more relevant now.
I have picked this You Tube vid, cos it aint as upsetting as most of them to this song;
Listen to the WORDS.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Zs2DCA9W7s
Carole xx
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Brian
Something Special
United Kingdom
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Posted - 16/05/2007 : 21:25:54
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So the little skwirt isn't going?
The nightclubs in London will be relieved.
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