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Wishing And Hoping
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 Posted - 11/07/2008 : 01:41:36
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John
Great points.
I believe Dusty knew this was her finest recording but she had an ambivalent relationship with it because it didn't sell. By the 1980s she could just about admit it was a great recording and it contained her finest singing. At the time of release she said thing's like 'people say this I my finest album'. I think that's Dusty saying 'this is my finest album'. After it's relative lack of sales you find her almost denigrating it with 'I don't know what people see in it' kind of lines; this is especially much later on when Dusty is sick of people boxing her into that time when she wants to move on and us to move on with her.
I do think Dusty was sales driven because sales were the public showing they liked her work. Dusty couldn't stand failure; she needed those sales to validate her worth. I guess at this time though there was still hope and there was still a next album. So if I freeze frame here I agree with you about there not being a dark side.
I've never come across that information about her being annoyed about the release of 'Son of a Preacher Man' (I don't recall the 'funny little voice' comments either). I would have thought she would have had much more control. I do know now that was one of her first recordings for DIM. I didn't know she wanted to do more work on it. Very interesting.
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Janie
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Posted - 11/07/2008 : 10:41:33
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Originally posted by reputation
Janie what made you feel let down with Dusty, what did she do? Was it going off to the States?
The States was always Dusty's dream but I wish she had never stayed away for so long. OK she came back every so often but she was still resident there.
As a teenager, having hung on every note she sang, watched everything I possibly could of her, read everything I possibly could about her, I was most definitely miffed that she disappeared to the States! She wasn't like the Beatles and the other of the British acts I was aware of who 'invaded'  the USA at the time, becaue to me they always were Brits abroad and would be coming home - I felt at the time that they were true to their fans. It struck me that Dusty wanted to be more American than British and as an ardent fan, one who had contributed to her success albeit it my own small way, I did feel she let us down. Well..............I DID say I was a teenager, didn't I? However, time has I hope proved that I did remain a true 'Superfan'    |
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reputation
Something Special
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Posted - 11/07/2008 : 19:55:11
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Originally posted by Earthbound Gypsy
Sadly I never knew Dusty was living in the States most of the years she did!
Karl I agree if I understand you correctly, ECUD is a better album that SOAPM, also AGCD.
There are many outstanding tracks on SOAPM. My favorite tracks are: So Much Love, I Don't Want To Hear It Anymore, Don't Forget About Me, Windmills of your Mind, I Can't Make It Alone, Just One Smile and like all the others on the original version.
The bonus track songs I like are: Make It With You, Have A Good Life Baby, and You've Got a Friend.
All this talk about DIM, just popped in to play it!
Marty
Marty I take it you are talking about Ev'rythings Coming Up Dusty & Dusty In Memphis as you called it SOAP which we all know was the hit single.
No I am not saying one album is better than the other, what I am saying is DIM is the one that is discussed the most and people tend to forget the other albums. I love the Memphis album but I also love ECUD, that was the first Dusty album I bought and it still remains my all time favourite album by any singer. |
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reputation
Something Special
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Posted - 11/07/2008 : 20:01:17
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In reply to Noidea's comments about Dusty's false modesty.
Having met Dusty I can assure you it was not false modesty, Dusty got rather embarassed when praise was heaped upon her and she was a very genuine person. Dusty was never one to blow her own trumpet to coin a phrase!
As for her being livid regarding Son Of A Preacher Man, I don't know where you read this or perhaps you are reading things into it but it was in print back in the 60's that brass was added to the backing without Dusty's knowledge and the record released before she could do anything about it. Perhaps Dusty wanted a more basic sound, however I think the brass really enhances the record and probably Dusty realised that too. |
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Something Special
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Posted - 11/07/2008 : 20:06:56
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Originally posted by Janie
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Originally posted by reputation
Janie what made you feel let down with Dusty, what did she do? Was it going off to the States?
The States was always Dusty's dream but I wish she had never stayed away for so long. OK she came back every so often but she was still resident there.
As a teenager, having hung on every note she sang, watched everything I possibly could of her, read everything I possibly could about her, I was most definitely miffed that she disappeared to the States! She wasn't like the Beatles and the other of the British acts I was aware of who 'invaded' the USA at the time, becaue to me they always were Brits abroad and would be coming home - I felt at the time that they were true to their fans. It struck me that Dusty wanted to be more American than British and as an ardent fan, one who had contributed to her success albeit it my own small way, I did feel she let us down. Well..............I DID say I was a teenager, didn't I? However, time has I hope proved that I did remain a true 'Superfan'
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Janie like you I hung on Dusyt's every note and read everything I could about her in the music press but I have to say this;-
As a teenager visiting the States for the first time in the 60's I can well understand why Dusty had the urge to go there - it was and still is a very exciting country and I still love visiting there.
As a singer in the 60's Dusty would see the signs with all the venues closing here making it harder for her to appear. Also I used to feel so sorry for Dusty recording such wonderful material and having flops with every other record.
I never wanted Dusty to leave our shores but I wished her well and hoped she would knock the socks off the Americans.
On closing I must tell you during my first trip to the States Dusyt's current hit was The Look Of Love and I remember two young American girls seeing it in the store and saying "Oh The Looka Love" we gotta get two copies of that - made my day!!!!! |
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Janie
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Posted - 11/07/2008 : 23:06:24
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Originally posted by reputation
I never wanted Dusty to leave our shores but I wished her well and hoped she would knock the socks off the Americans.
You and me both Karl . The trouble was of course she had no more success over in the States than she had over here around that time but she didn't come back home to us for any significant period until the 80's. One can't help but wonder if things would have been any different ('better' I suppose I really mean)for her had she done so  . That's life though, we all make what we believe to be the right decision for ourselves at a given point in time in our lives - sometimes we are right, sometimes we are wrong.
Janie x54 |
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Why wasn't 'Dusty in Memphis' a hit album?
